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Hulk is My Favorite Avenger!

Avengers: Age of Ultron is a very fun, exciting movie, and I’m going to see it again tonight! It’s not as amazing as the first one because everything is more familiar than last time, and a little too comfortable, but it’s still another high mark on Marvel’s resume. It absolutely deserves to break box office records, though I don’t think it’s going to have people talking as much as the last Avengers movie did. Still, very good stuff!

Here are a couple of videos poking fun at my favorite Avenger, the Hulk! First up is the Honest Trailer for Hulk’s original movie, all the way back before Marvel got into making movies.

Personally, I liked Hulk when it first came out. I haven’t seen it in years, and I probably won’t ever be watching it again, but I liked Hulk and I’m not ashamed of that.

Next up, the fine folks at Cinema Sins tackle the second movie, The Incredible Hulk. And I think we can all agree that we liked Incredible Hulk better, though it’s easy to forget that it came out the same year as Iron Man and is technically part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Of course, we’re all better off with Hulk in the Avengers movies, so there’s definitely no complaining now. And probably expect my full Age of Ultron review by Sunday!

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I Am On the Fence About a Planet Hulk Movie

How cool was it when the Hulk punched that Leviathan during the big climax of The Avengers? I can still remember the audience bursting into cheers as my own heart soared. I don’t think I’ve seen anything as thrilling as that moment since. That punch may very well be the defining moment of the entire Avengers franchise.

He’s always angry

So where’s the new Hulk solo movie?

Mark Ruffalo nailed it in The Avengers. He fit the role perfectly, and I for one couldn’t be happier with his performance. I think we can all also agree that the Hulk was the breakout character of the movie. Joss Whedon got the Hulk absolutely right, his feats of strength writ large on the big screen. The character couldn’t be hotter. But we’ve heard bupkis about any new Hulk movies.

Other than rumors that Marvel might send the Hulk into space for an adaptation of the Planet Hulk storyline from the comics – to which I am fairly unsure about. A lot of people want to see Planet Hulk on the big screen, but I don’t think I’m one of them.

Hulk doubtful

On the one hand, I just don’t think Planet Hulk would be the best use of the character in the Marvel Movieverse. The storyline worked fine for the comics, but a movie is a different beast entirely, especially in the Movieverse continuity. For one thing, Bruce Banner barely factors into Planet Hulk, so Ruffalo would be wasted. You better believe that matters in a big budget movie.

In the comics, Planet Hulk is a story about the Avengers sending Hulk out into space so that he can’t trouble the people of Earth anymore. Hulk winds up on a strange alien planet, where he’s immediately captured and turned into a gladiator, exactly like the gladiators of Ancient Rome. Hulk suppresses Banner so that he never has to change back, and the Big Green Machine eventually fights his way to freedom and then leads an uprising against the cruel regime that imprisoned him. It’s a pretty standard storyline, but the bare bones approach of Hulk smashing everything to freedom really appealed to readers.

So good!

But I don’t want this adapted to film (other than the cartoon adaptation they already made). The story is as basic as it gets: Hulk as a gladiator. There is little depth to the Hulk or his characterization. He doesn’t like being controlled, so he breaks free and then takes the fight to the people who tried to control him. He makes a bunch of friends along the way, and finds love, but it’s just the Hulk smashing everything until he wins, and that’s not my kind of movie.

I prefer my Hulk set firmly in the context of Earth, where HULK IS THE STRONGEST THERE IS! If you plop the Hulk into the world of Guardians of the Galaxy, he’s just another freaky looking alien. And if you take away Banner, that makes it even worse, and Hulk becomes even less human. Do we really want Mark Ruffalo running around on some alien gladiator planet? Doesn’t he work better as the nerdy science guy on Earth?

A handsome nerdy science guy

On the other hand, Hulk has already had two mediocre outings that kept him on Earth. Sending him into space would be new and interesting. I will go on record as a fan of both Ang Lee’s Hulk in 2003 and the Edward Norton reboot in 2008, which is an often-ignored part of the wider Movieverse. But society as a whole isn’t too favorable to either film. They outright dislike Lee’s film, and generally ignore the Norton movie. Both were about Bruce Banner as a tortured soul, where being the Hulk was a great curse that he tried to cure.

That’s why Joss Whedon got the character right in The Avengers. In that film, the Hulk was embraced, treated as something useful and fun. Sure, Banner was still bothered by having to become the Hulk, but by the end, both he and the Big Green Guy were embraced by their fellow heroes, and Hulk was instrumental in saving the day.

That’s the Hulk I want to see in future films.

I don’t want to watch the Avengers or anyone else send Hulk off into space to get rid of him. I don’t want to see Banner and friends spend their lives trying to cure the Hulk. I want to see a movie where Banner embraces the Hulk in the context of life on Earth, where he remains the strongest person alive, but also fallibly human.

Sorry, I lost my train of thought due to awesomeness…

I don’t exactly have any ideas beyond that. But there are decades worth of great Hulk stories out there. People only remember ‘Planet Hulk’ because it was recent, and there haven’t been any Hulk stories as notable since. But these movies no longer rely on any sort of direct adaptation. Most of the new Marvel movies are original stories, borrowing freely from the comics to make something uniquely their own.

The Hulk is in just such a position. Planet Hulk would be a rote adaptation for the breakout star of the franchise. There’s no doubt that the character is going to explode all over again in next year’s Age of Ultron.

After that, Hulk is going to be too big to just sit around playing gladiator games.

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Actor Tim Blake Nelson is a Dirty, Rotten Traitor!

I mean that in the nicest way possible, with the utmost respect for this delightful actor. But what the heck, Tim Blake Nelson? Does loyalty mean nothing to you?

I am, of course, talking about the news that Tim Blake Nelson has been cast as the Mole Man in the upcoming Fantastic Four reboot. Technically he’s been cast as scientist Harvey Elder, with the implication that he’ll become the Mole Man in one of the sequels, because that has worked out so well in the past.

This time it’ll work for sure!

But Tim Blake Nelson has been in this exact scenario before! Nelson was cast as scientist Samuel Sterns in The Incredible Hulk in 2008, with the implication that he’d transform into the villainous Leader in one of the sequels. Heck, they even started transforming Nelson in the climax of that film.

Remember this scene?

Like it was yesterday

Obviously the Incredible Hulk sequel never came to pass and Nelson never got to play the super-villain. Is that his motivation here? Was he sad that Marvel never came through for him, so like a jilted lover, he’s jumped ship to join FOX and their Fantastic Four reboot? Which one of these companies is the trail-blazing leader in superhero films, Tim Blake Nelson? How could you do this to us! I had such high hopes for you!

This actually puts me in a real dilly of a pickle. You see, in my List of Six of the things I wanted to see on the TV show Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Tim Blake Nelson returning as the Leader was my #1 choice! The show is the perfect place to pick up abandoned plotlines from the Hulk movie! They’ve already introduced Hulk adversary Glenn Talbot to the show. Why not have Nelson guest star on Agents as the Leader? He would be perfect as a Big Bad for a season! He’s a real, legitimate comic book villain, but he’s clearly not going to appear in any future Marvel movies! Plus how cool would it be for an abandoned movie storyline to be picked up by the show? That should be exactly why Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. exists.

But here’s the thing, in my List of six of the things I wanted to see in the Fantastic Four reboot, Mole Man was my #2 entry! So the gods of pop culture gave me one of my wishes by stealing from another. It’s madness.

Casting Col. Talbot on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Could Mean Bigger, Greener Things!

Revealed just yesterday, Adrian Pasdar has been cast as Colonel Glenn Talbot on Agents of SHIELD! That’s pretty exciting news, seeing as how Talbot is a major player in Hulk comics. And it’s always a good sign when SHIELD adds some real comic characters.

Save the Hulk, save the world

You can check out an interview with Pasdar here.

The best news is that Talbot will probably open the door to other Hulk characters. We probably won’t see General Ross or the Hulk himself, but what about Doc Samson? Or, dare I say it…the Leader!? A few months ago, I wrote a List of Six about what I’d like to see on Agents of SHIELD, and the Leader was the #1 choice. I suggested he could be the season’s Big Bad, especially if they use actor Timothy Blake, who played Samuel Sterns in The Incredible Hulk movie.

I made that suggestion before SHIELD introduced a Big Bad called ‘The Clairvoyant’. Mind powers…the Leader…it all adds up!